the gods aren’t angry: rob bell
I spent the evening with Rob Bell, at the Wilter Theater in Los Angeles. His current speaking tour was insightful and entertaining, as one would expect from Rob, but I was left wanting. He began by painting a picture of primitive humanities struggle for survival against natural forces that we are helpless to control. People imagined deities governing the rain, their crops, and disasters, and developed religious expressions in order to appease them. However one could never know if their offering was adequate; altars themselves represented the vortex created by trying to please the gods.
These detached deities are sharply contrasted by the God who calls Abraham, and promises to bless him, requiring nothing in return. Even when God appeared to be requiring his only son Isaac, in the end God provided the ram. Rob argued that this story showed that the God of Abraham was different than all the other gods, who did nothing for the people, but only “took” their offerings.
Fast forward to Jesus. In his world, the religious system is being used to control people’s relationship to God. And certain religious leaders are making a killing in the process. Jesus recognizes this abuse of the people, and misuse of the Jewish religious system, and confronts in head-on. He is repaid with execution. It is significant that Jesus did not perpetuate the violence that was being used to enforce the governments of the day. Rather he bore the cross.
Rob told stories of people still trying to appease the gods, despite our more sophisticated, “modern” worldview. The cross, he argued, is the final verdict that God is not angry with us, and that we must live in this reality. He sees continued use of guilt and shame in Christianity today, instead of an invitation into a life of peace with God. The only offerings we need to make to God are good deeds toward our neighbors.
As one friend put it, Rob is great at speaking truth afresh. While I couldn’t disagree with a thing he said, I was left wondering about how Jesus matters to the other people. Yes, there are guilt-riden folk who need to know that God is not out to get them – the Father of our Lord Jesus is not like the gods of antiquity. I wonder what he would say to folks who could not care less about God being angry with them. They do not feel any guilt or shame for their sin. Might it be good for them to experience a dose of conviction?
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the message very much. It was a great corrective for we Christians who slip into performance-based faith. But it always seems like Rob is speaking to people of faith who have been bruised by Christianity of today. He always seems to be speaking from this place of healing them. What of the person who knows nothing of church of Jesus? I honestly wonder if Rob is not universalist at heart: that is, that God is going to save everyone regardless of their faith or life.
I also things its phenomenal that a preacher from Michigan was speaking in a historic theater in downtown L.A., to a nearly sold-out crowd. Phenomenal in the sense that it is just doesn’t happen every day – or ever. What does that mean about us, if anything?
The moral of the story – live in the peace and security of God’s love, and extend your offerings to your neighbor in need.
November 30, 2007 at 7:26 pm
Hey,
Is this an article written by the Paul Frields I know who is from Henderson, Ky?
Just wondering,
Myles Gullett
December 2, 2007 at 10:14 pm
Hey,
A good thing to remember about doing good is to do it when no one is looking and to those who cannot repay and to widows and orphans. Reading James is a good refresher course for practical do gooding. Our God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ desires to love and help each of us, and as a gentleman he never forces himself on those who do not desire Him. Also Jesus came in the flesh and died on the cross and rose again and now sits at Gods right hand while God makes Jesus enemies a footstool for his feet. Also we as Christians hope to share in Christs hoilness and Gods holiness is not spotted or malformed.
Thank God for the sacrifice of Christ for my sins. Under a universalist worldview I need no belief in Christ for my sins. if it turns out I do need it I’ll just magically get it. Kind of like those primitive peoples sacrificing to they do not know what.
While I am commenting on universalism it will be good to point out the best reason not to believe a universalist vantage point in your theology, Jesus said to go and preach the gospel and baptize. The logical conclusion of Universalism is there is no need to believe in doing such a thing as all are saved and therefore that leads to the discount of the whole message of Christ.
I was a universalist for a time. It was a selfish conviction that spoke volumes about my then unbelief of God’s sense of rightness in sending people to hell. I errorneously used the scripture, ” 9(A)For this reason also, God (B)highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him (C)the name which is above every name,
10so that at the name of Jesus (D)EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of (E)those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is (F)Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” I concluded that since everybody would confess Chirst then they would all be saved however now I realize even the deamons believed and confessed and called him Gods Son.
Okay enough just like was stated, ” live in the peace and security of God’s love, and extend your offerings to your neighbor in need.”
How is that for some more substantial commenting Paul. I have a feeling that is not quite what you wanted either but alas it is a shot. God bless. Myles Gullett
December 13, 2007 at 11:55 am
Please oh please keep writing! Your articles are wonderful!
March 7, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Paul, I need to talk to you about writing a letter of recommendation for me. Would you please call me?
cell 270-823-2384
home 270-826-9618
It was great to see you and get to talk to you at the funeral home. You know you are one of my favorites.
Dana Guess-Chumbler